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re: Browsers Question Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 8:03 am Posted by Steve (23798 messages posted) Many Web sites are phasing out support for old Browsers like IE6 and Firefox 2. Since you are using Windows ME you are limited to what Browser to use now. Opera is suppose to still support older versions of Windows, and be somewhat more compliant to the Web. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 8:16 am Posted by elmoticky (134 messages posted) Thanks as usual Steve. Actually I had been readin a bit on Opera and I think I will give it a try. You are correct on the phasing out support for old Browsers like I have used on my old machine. I will get on the Opera browser today. Thanks again On Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 8:03 am, Steve wrote: >Many Web sites are phasing out support for old Browsers like IE6 and Firefox 2. Since >you are using Windows ME you are limited to what Browser to use now. Opera is suppose >to still support older versions of Windows, and be somewhat more compliant to >the Web. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 12:28 pm Posted by Ed (741 messages posted) Your question seems to contain an implied reference to YouTube, a site which has been making a nuisance of itself lately by threatening to withdraw support for older browsers. From examining the latest statements on that site, its intention appears to be merely to introduce new forms of advertising - of benefit only to itself, not to users - which I'm sure we can well live without. Specifically, they are now saying explicitly that it will remain possible to view videos on their site using any browser. This is a old tactic, long abused by Micro$oft in its campaign against Windows 9x users, of pretending that the sky will fall unless you obey their demands. I've noticed that Firefox 2 is quite effective on the YouTube site, much more so than Internet Explorer 6. So I always use Firefox 2 there now: it doesn't get nearly the same level of abuse from the site that they hurl at Internet Explorer 6. However, Firefox 3 will run on Windows ME (whereas Internet Explorer 7 won't). If you install the kernel extender (KernelEx.exe), to add certain functions that are commonly used by Windows XP, Firefox 3 and quite a variety of other WinXP programs will happily run on a Windows ME system. In this respect, WinME has some advantages over Windows 98, because the higher powered hardware of WinME seems to handle the WinXP software a little more easily. On Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 7:44 am, elmoticky wrote: >I have been having difficuties with my Mozilla Firefox >brower lately. I will no longer be allowed to view videos >previoulsy allowed by this browser. Also, I have noticed >the slowness in browsing and opening windows. I would >like someone to recommend a browser that I may use >and remove my Firefox. I am not a savvy user and will >thank you in advance for any advise. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 1:09 pm Posted by elmoticky (134 messages posted) Ed, thank you for the interesting information with respect to browsers. As I wrote earlier that I was having difficulties viewing videos with firefox, I switched to Opera and I still cannot view most of the videos posted by bloggers on my favorites web sites. When I go to the video, it has the loading circle going round and round but the video never shows. While your recommendation with respect to downloading a Kernel Extender to give my WinMe more power, I must tell you that I am now becoming accustomed to my new Opera browser and would find it inconvenient to switch again so soon. Sometimes I get lucky though with videos. It is when they appear on screen with the spot to click and it opens. Other than that, I thank you for your advise. As to the Kernel, as good as it sounds, I wonder if it works for Opera also. Feel free to give your opinion, it is greatly respected. Thanks On Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 12:28 pm, Ed wrote: >Your question seems to contain an implied reference to YouTube, a site which has >been making a nuisance of itself lately by threatening to withdraw support for older >browsers. > >From examining the latest statements on that site, its intention appears to be merely >to introduce new forms of advertising - of benefit only to itself, not to users - >which I'm sure we can well live without. > >Specifically, they are now saying explicitly that it will remain possible to view >videos on their site using any browser. This is a old tactic, long abused by Micro$oft >in its campaign against Windows 9x users, of pretending that the sky will fall unless >you obey their demands. > >I've noticed that Firefox 2 is quite effective on the YouTube site, much more so >than Internet Explorer 6. So I always use Firefox 2 there now: it doesn't get nearly >the same level of abuse from the site that they hurl at Internet Explorer 6. > > >However, Firefox 3 will run on Windows ME (whereas Internet Explorer 7 won't). >If you install the kernel extender (KernelEx.exe), to add certain functions that >are commonly used by Windows XP, Firefox 3 and quite a variety of other WinXP programs >will happily run on a Windows ME system. > >In this respect, WinME has some advantages over Windows 98, because the higher powered >hardware of WinME seems to handle the WinXP software a little more easily. > > > > > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 6:40 am Posted by Steve (23798 messages posted) Some of your problems with watching Video on the Internet may also be because new versions of Flash Player may be needed. The new versions may not be compatible with Windows ME, Windows 98. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 7:36 am Posted by elmoticky (134 messages posted) Steve you are absolutely correct about the flash player not being compatible with my WinMe if I would want to install the new version. I have given up trying. Thanks as always. On Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 6:40 am, Steve wrote: >Some of your problems with watching Video on the Internet may also be because new >versions of Flash Player may be needed. The new versions may not be compatible with >Windows ME, Windows 98. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 6:50 am Posted by Ed (741 messages posted) In fact the latest flash videos will play in Windows ME. Version 9.0.262.0 is the latest version of Flash Player 9 for Windows 98 and ME, Macintosh, and Linux. You simply need to choose the Flash plug-in for the type of browser which you prefer to use. There are now compatible browser plug-ins for not only Internet Explorer and Firefox, but also for other browsers. If you go to the following Adobe page, it gives you various different downloads (compatible with Windows 9x, Mac OS X, and all versions of Linux) depending on which browser you want to view Flash videos in: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/406/kb406791.html Otherwise, view Flash video files without using a browser, by downloading the .FLV file and playing it from your hard disk. I can recommend the following players for Windows 98SE and ME - Media Player Classic v6.4.9.1 (MPLAYERC.EXE): Download Media Player Classic here Applian FLV Player v2.0.25 (FLVPlayer.exe): Download Applian FLV Player here Wimpy FLV Player v2.5.0.21: Download Wimpy FLV Player here GOM Player v2.1.21.4846 (GOM.exe) (my personal favourite): Download Gom Player here Ed On Thursday, March 25, 2010 at 7:36 am, elmoticky wrote: >Steve you are absolutely correct about the flash >player not being compatible with my WinMe if >I would want to install the new version. I have >given up trying. Thanks as always. > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 4:34 am Posted by Ed (741 messages posted) I'm so sorry: I was in a hurry last time, and in consequence I unintentionally overlooked one part of your question. If you install the Kernel Extender (KernelEx.exe) in Windows ME it will *not* prevent you running any of your existing programs, such as your favorite Opera browser. The Kernel Extender allows you to run additional programs, that were intended for Windows XP. It will run just about any program that will run on Windows XP, because it adds to Windows ME the ability to interpret certain functions (technically, function calls used by the Windows kernel) that exist in Win XP but don't exist in Win ME. It extends the capability of Windows ME, by extending the type of function calls which it can understand. It doesn't lose the ability to understand Windows ME functions; but it does get the ability to handle a whole bunch of extra functions found in Windows XP programs. Sometimes Windows ME programs don't like this. If that happens, you just add the Windows ME program in question to a list of programs (stored in the Windows registry) that the kernel extender will ignore. It then doesn't allow that program to interact with the new settings, and it functions as an ordinary Windows ME program. More information about the Kernel Extender is at: http://x86.neostrada.pl/KernelEx/ Ed On Saturday, March 20, 2010 at 1:09 pm, elmoticky wrote: >Ed, thank you for the interesting information with >respect to browsers. As I wrote earlier that I was >having difficulties viewing videos with firefox, I >switched to Opera and I still cannot view most of >the videos posted by bloggers on my favorites web >sites. When I go to the video, it has the loading >circle going round and round but the video never >shows. While your recommendation with respect >to downloading a Kernel Extender to give my WinMe more power, I must tell you that >I am now >becoming accustomed to my new Opera browser >and would find it inconvenient to switch again so >soon. Sometimes I get lucky though with videos. It >is when they appear on screen with the spot to click >and it opens. Other than that, I thank you for your >advise. As to the Kernel, as good as it sounds, I >wonder if it works for Opera also. Feel free to give >your opinion, it is greatly respected. >Thanks > > > [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Friday, July 9, 2010 at 7:50 pm Posted by Just Me (24 messages posted) There are some plugins that help with video's embeded in pages, in firefox just goto the firefox add-ons page, search for flash and you will finds some. Also a plugin you should get is the enable disable java and javascript toolbar buttons, keep java off unless you have to turn it on for a spacific page, then turn it back off. One thing that got me once, is some pages force flash to upgrade, even when you have upgrade turned off in firefox and the flash player, the newest flash versions will not work in WinMe/95/98. if you goto: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/142/tn_14266.html you can download the older version again, then uninstall the newer flash, and reinstall and old version, I personaly like the ones before 9 as there is a flash trojan web page installer that infects versions of flash past version 9. one weirdness with u-tube is some links work in old flash some don't you can almost always get the vid you want to view by doing it in a differant way, such as searching, etc. Also the flash download and u-tube video download plugins help to by pass u-tube problems. As do things like spoofing the browser version, etc. More plug-ins :-) I love plugins, oh make sure to use advanced options on firefox plugins page and select show versions for your firefox version.     [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Friday, July 9, 2010 at 8:04 pm Posted by Just Me (24 messages posted) Quote  " However, Firefox 3 will run on Windows ME (whereas Internet Explorer 7 won't). If you install the kernel extender (KernelEx.exe), to add certain functions that are commonly used by Windows XP, Firefox 3 and quite a variety of other WinXP programs will happily run on a Windows ME system."   Ware would one find this plugin??   I've found the unicode plugin helpfull on using newer software too. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Saturday, July 10, 2010 at 5:59 am Posted by elmoticky (134 messages posted) Hello Just Me. Thanks for your well articulated advise pertaining to my browser question posted in February. I was told by another of the helpful members here at Annoyances to download the older version of plug-in which I did. I am now able to view videos and do not have difficulties with my PC. Thank you for your nice post and I will take the opportunity to allow you to assist me in another matter. However, I will ask you to read my new post that I will write following sending you this one. Look for a post by me entitled: "Need free virus scan". I hope you know of one. Thanks, Elmoticky [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 9:56 pm Posted by Ed (741 messages posted) The browser plug-in for Flash Player 9 is the newest that will work in Windows 98/98SE/ME. The latest version that can run on Windows 98/98SE/ME is version 260 (Flash Player 9.0 release 260). I hear there are now later versions than this for running on Windows 98/98SE/ME, but I haven't yet tested any of them. The plug-in for Internet Explorer won't work in Netscape-based browsers (such as Firefox), and vice versa. Hence there are two different plug-ins. Don't download the one for Firefox and expect it to work in Internet Explorer! But if you happen to have both IE6 and Firefox 2 installed, you can safely install both Flash plug-ins: they don't conflict. The page from which to download the plugin you need is http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/406/kb406791.html If you install the plug-in for Internet Explorer, it will install an ActiveX file named Flash9j.ocx (usually into C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash). If you run into any problem, the secret is to uninstall your current Flash plug-in first, using the special Flash uninstaller program available from Adobe's website, before installing the version obtained from the above link. Historical note: The Flash software was originally owned by Macromedia, but they have since sold it to Adobe. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: Browsers Question Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 10:39 pm Posted by Ed (741 messages posted) There is no unicode plugin for Windows 98 or ME. The Microsoft Layer for Unicode is available, however. This constitutes a single .DLL file named UNICOWS.DLL which must be copied to the directory ("folder") containing the .exe program that needs it. It does not need installing, and does not add any entries to the Windows registry. This .DLL cannot be used on a system-wide basis, so there is no point copying it to the C:\WINDOWS directory or any other location in your DOS path. It provides some unicode functions, but only for .exe files in the same directory as itself. It is intentionally designed NOT to function as a plugin for Windows, because it interferes with (and will crash) many programs which run under Windows 9x but cannot cope with unicode.   http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/magazine/cc301794.aspx The Kernel extender (KernelEx) is a replacement for the Windows ME system file Kernel32.dll and enables Windows to install and run NTx-only & XP-only applications and games. It can be downloaded from the KernelEx homepage:   http://x86.neostrada.pl/KernelEx/ [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows Me Discussion Forum